Lichess vs Chesscom Elo

@DrHack said in #6:
> C'est intéressant... vu que j'ai dû remonter 2 mois en arrière dans votre histoire pour trouver ne serait-ce qu'un seul adversaire banni. Je ne vais pas plus loin.. votre propagande est entendue et rejetée. @Ecamvelo

About report, i speak about chess.com no lichess but you need have capacity to understand for that. Read and stay in himself comfort, you couldn't.

@Ecamvelo said in #11:
> About report, i speak about chess.com no lichess but you need have capacity to understand for that. Read and stay in himself comfort, you couldn't.

Apologies. The translation to English was difficult to understand.

@Ecamvelo said in #5:
> And maybe i will be ban for that but on google you write "cheat on chess.com" you have a lot of tutorial and i tryed someones and at least 2 are ok and if are no idiot in play full with that you are not ban.
@Ecamvelo said in #5:
> It's simply, cheaters is cancer/toxic

So you admit to cheating, and then say cheaters are cancer/toxic? I agree cheating is bad (fortunately, far fewer people cheat than you claim), but it seems pretty hypocritical in your case.

@AsDaGo said in #13:
but it seems pretty hypocritical in your case.

Probably. Just i never tried to be performed, only get my proov of my opinion (as you see i accuse a lot). Tonight i did 7 games and 7 defeat and.....7 bot, even if i play as like a chicken (and i played very bad) against elo 800-950 online (600/700 irl ?)

i don't know if you realize what means this elo, you know only move pieces, you try "coup du berger" (i don't know in english) and major people don't know chessmate with K+Q vs K.

On Lichess i battle against 1800, several time, even vs 1600, i lose but i defend, you see the opponent make his tactic and punish you when you make an error, you can see the game. On chess.com, it's only mecanic play and same or more advanced than 1800 elo there (according the them analyse), then more 1000 elo gap.

I tried play irl and i see some beginner (elo 900), no one played as like in chess.com player. I showed some games the last weekend (without tell where i took the game) and they told so good player.. believe or not it isn't my problem but when i cumulate every indice my opinion is done.

Now i ame sure then i don't use any application, my objective is improve my game for irl then can't cheat (my name isn't Hans Niemann).
Just, at the start of the post i am very impressive to see as much as people use a bot (or website use it). On side it's good because i have to think against a computer but other site it's bored because you feel don't progress.

It is the last subject about that. I think that, i have myself proov, the world is lake that and no there for have conflict. only share my work.
Good luck about yours games :)

I don't think as many people are cheating as you think are. Try analyze your games with an engine, and you'll likely find that they made plenty of mistakes. Also, people who are cheating will usually have fairly consistent move times.

By the way, you can't really compare different ratings from different sites (or OTB) because they have different player pools. Also, Lichess ratings start at 1500, whereas chess.com ratings usually start lower (it used to be 1200, but now you choose where you start I believe). Also, OTB you'll probably find many people starting out OTB but having played online for a while so they might be very good. So they might be unrated or have low ratings OTB, but still be good chess players.

There nothing better than an original topic.

I would estimate Lichess ratings are around 200 points higher than chess.com.

@Ecamvelo said in #5:
> On lichess close half players <1300 elo use a bot (just watch them game and compare in irl level). I rport 5/6 players every day with screen (and some hack no legal for see them screen that i used in mmo when people come for menace et want hack the server and yes they cheat but it's my problem, i must "give" nothing at nobody).
> I win between 40 and 60 points of compensation, every day. I created my account in august and i never got less. I lose thse point either because i lose my game (normal) or met another bot.
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> I beat some players at 1800 and 1500 elo irl and never they played as perfect as these 800 elo. Tonigh i met 5 players, reported 4 with screens and one with 41 better step on 42, elo chess.com 1150....
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> Tell me what you want, if we must wait that a judge tell "this a proov" we will stop no one in the life (we have not the real proov about ben laden on 11/09).
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> We must know chess.com isn't a plateform for play but for get benefit. Cheaters isn't problem, for get money you have to focus on the quantity and not the quality (as like lichess). Them partnairs with clash royal (one of the big pay to win in the market) it's a "proov", more 50% of players cheat (and i did then i know how recognize, pay to win have a minimum legal about security, the first is win money) then they get this communauty.
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> Already a website who is proud to write it banned more millions account for cheat, 20% of top100 of the world (3 of top 15) means every thing. A compagny who has these stats and want recruit me i don't go.
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> And maybe i will be ban for that but on google you write "cheat on chess.com" you have a lot of tutorial and i tryed someones and at least 2 are ok and if are no idiot in play full with that you are not ban. Then safe are close of 0.
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> About me i continue to play on this website only for work my open, gambit, try somethings and i prefer play in focus a performance on Lichess against true players (i took my first licence irl on september then i want be get ready).
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> And for people why i see cheaters, why i lookign for => I play in mmo for 25 years ago. I create some server (Minecraft), have been Masterguild to 80/120 players. It's simply, cheaters is cancer/toxic, if you leave do them, good players go another where (can't play, toxic chat etc) and someones menace (and can do it) to destroy severals years of work.
> Then the solution it's learn to reconise, understand how they work and react action before them (it's long and bored).

I congratulate everybody who managed to read this. I fell of my armchair after only 5 first lines.